Matthew Hayden

You know, so those match-ups can be the difference.

In 2020 cricket, what we know is that the margins are really small.

You know, so if you've got a 10-run shift...

Just because your matchups are in a position that line up according to the game, it's game over.

You know, it's not too many times that you see, you know, really compelling victories in...

this format of the game.

It's often, you know, margins... Yeah, 10, 15, 20 tops.

Otherwise, you've just had a shocking day and it wouldn't matter who you ran out.

That's a really tricky question to answer.

In the context of intellectual property, there is...

and has been this way for quite a long time, that there has been a shift in the movement of intellectual property, which I would call the product of Australian cricket.

Now, overseas, we have Justin Langer that's coaching LSG.

We have Ricky Ponting that's coaching the Punjab Kings.

We have Tom Moody that's head of high performance of LSG as well.

We've got players that play across all countries, all codes, that are franchise-driven alternatives to the cut and thrust of cricket in our country, and that is that our product...

can and will be retained by Cricket Australia.

And so we're bleeding and we're almost, I feel, bleeding out in many ways because we've had three decades of extraordinary talent that's come to our shores and stayed on our shores and remains in our game.

And where we're really getting challenged is at the game development side of it where, and I'll give you a prime example of

Jake Fraser McGurk.

Yes.