Matthew Kachuk

So what else is the threat?

What other threats do they have?

What other capabilities do they have, and have they always had, and are they willing to use them?

And at what point do we decide to make sure that we take, I mean, not only the threat of the nuclear weapons, but the capability or the possibility of bringing around

regime change in a way that is not going to involve our troops.

Because I think if anything that involves us putting... But it is involving our troops.

Let me finish, Megan.

If it's involving anything where we put boots on the ground...

then I'm not for that.

I think there's other ways to do it.

And I go back to, it's up to the Iranian people to take charge.

We give them the opportunity to take over their country.

And at some point, when you have a bully in the backyard or on the playground, somebody has to face up to that bully and punch him in the nose.

And we have done that and we need to continue to do that, giving the rest of the people on the playground

and showing them that, you know what, you can take over this bully as well and make your own playground safe.

And that's what really, I think, is a lot behind this.

Making it so the Iranian people can have an environment where they can take over their country and choose, the people of Iran choose what they want, not what some mullah wants to tell them they have to have.

Two things is, one is-

When has anything worthwhile been easy?

It never has.