Matthew May, MD

Well, then maybe I'll never get a good job. I'll never get a good job.

Well, then maybe I'll never get a good job. I'll never get a good job.

That would mean I would be worthless.

That would mean I would be worthless.

It's even worse than that. Then everyone would reject me.

It's even worse than that. Then everyone would reject me.

Everyone would reject me because I'd be so worthless.

Everyone would reject me because I'd be so worthless.

I would be the most worthless person, but then I would also then be miserable forever.

I would be the most worthless person, but then I would also then be miserable forever.

If that were true.

If that were true.

Yeah, yeah. I was... trying to create a very realistic sample of what it's like to go through this process of an uncovering technique to arrive at the self-defeating beliefs. And I think that that went really well, and I agreed with all of those points.

Yeah, yeah. I was... trying to create a very realistic sample of what it's like to go through this process of an uncovering technique to arrive at the self-defeating beliefs. And I think that that went really well, and I agreed with all of those points.

that Rhonda and you named, I summarized it as, I must be successful, accomplished, productive, and popular, or I'm worthless and will be miserable forever. That I require all those things in order to be worthwhile and happy.

that Rhonda and you named, I summarized it as, I must be successful, accomplished, productive, and popular, or I'm worthless and will be miserable forever. That I require all those things in order to be worthwhile and happy.

That's cool. I have a response to your question about a Buddhist way of thinking about self-defeating beliefs, too. I'm not a Buddhist, but I like— There are no Buddhists at the time in the United States. Is that right? Yeah. I'm just sort of beginning as a Buddhist. But the—

That's cool. I have a response to your question about a Buddhist way of thinking about self-defeating beliefs, too. I'm not a Buddhist, but I like— There are no Buddhists at the time in the United States. Is that right? Yeah. I'm just sort of beginning as a Buddhist. But the—

I think a thought like, you know, I need this or that or this other thing before I could approve of myself and love myself or be happy or feel worthwhile is, like Jason said, it's this concept of attachment. I need these things before I could be okay. I think the Buddha pointed out that that is a common thing.

I think a thought like, you know, I need this or that or this other thing before I could approve of myself and love myself or be happy or feel worthwhile is, like Jason said, it's this concept of attachment. I need these things before I could be okay. I think the Buddha pointed out that that is a common thing.