Matthew McConaughey

And I, for me, that's still a challenge for me daily

Now is to trust and not be, because I can be, I think I can be overly practical and I think I can overcompensate and miss out on magic because I'm still going, wait, but do you, are we giving enough, are we giving enough measure and credit to actuality?

Are we, am I giving enough credit to this is, these are the steps to take?

and this is reality, I think I'm reminded when I trust, because going with the mystic, just to put yourself on the plane was the engineering, but getting there, and as you say, you roll in that mystical, it takes a lot of trust.

Amen on that.

Where do you get that courage and trust to go with your gut, your, your feeling?

And is there, for instance, three days later, you sit down, is there, if you didn't, if that doesn't happen, is there a sense a week, two weeks later, now when you come back to America, they're like, ah, I failed?

Do you have any certain...

non-negotiable structure before that freedom to go with the feeling?

So you have a constitution with which you embark.

You do too.

Into chasing.

Yes, I hope so.

Yeah.

And for me, I'd like to, it's inspiring to hear someone like yourself go, I go and I just land and I just go, I'm going to feel it.

I can go back and go, yeah, my greatest truths I've crossed, my greatest successes in my life were when I trusted that and go, I took a one-way ticket.

Amazon, Africa.

Yeah.

And those were spiritual and very pragmatic because they led to

dealing with succeeding in other ways that are more pragmatic 100% and gave much more meaning to those things.