Matthew McConaughey

He had things to get patented, but never would follow through to get the government patent.

And then later on, you'd see the product be made or sold on QVC or something.

They'd be like, Ron, that was yours.

Are they still your idea?

Did you patent that?

He'd be like,

Like never would, there's something beautiful and sad about that.

Yeah.

That let me inside who he was in his heart and who he wanted to be and what he was hoping to be and trying to be but couldn't quite pull off.

I mean, I hope so.

I get, I look, there's a tenacity to survive that I got.

From him.

Look, hopefully I can try and find some of that in different ways in any character that I go play.

Because if you really want to give a character an obstacle to overcome, a need, I mean, the base one is life and death.

Whether that's the need to survive or the need to stave off extinction.

I'm not talking about what the rules, the laws are, the social mores, the manners and graces.

You gonna fight for your own life in a world that's not supporting you to do so?

There's a wonderful courage of, okay, watch this.

My life?

or I'm in charge of extending it, get out of the way.