Matthew McConaughey

So I think it needs redefinition of what it is because it is important.

That's what I mean.

That's why I said, I don't mean small.

It needs to think bigger about what it is and how it's useful.

When it seeks to invalidate, it's small.

When it seeks vision...

It can be big.

Yes.

Well, one's affirmative, one's going into that cynicism we were talking about.

Yeah.

You know, and validation of any opposing thought, or maybe that we're even opposing.

Opposition is an arrogant term that's too strong.

So a lot of times it's not even opposition, alternative, other than, another way of thinking about it.

Oh, could both be true?

Oh, how could we parlay those two ideas?

You know, one of the challenges with these ideas of a third party or meet you in the middle, it's kind of got this historic notion of being, oh, well, it's sort of mystery in between, kind of go which way the wind blows.

I think done in the right way.

It's the, and it doesn't have to be under a third party's name necessarily, but it's actually an incredibly rebellious position right now.

And it's actually, and I love sports, it's tactically the place with which

to move most advantageously.