Matthew McConaughey

ticked off that you had to pick up the kids' toys before you left and they were supposed to pick them up and therefore you were late for the thing that made you ran into and you ran into the person that was walking in the office, that's the guy that you did the interview, that's the guy you were looking for, the job you wanted and you caught him because you were in the elevator with him and that 90 seconds on that elevator is what got you that job that led you doing what you want to do.

I mean, the significance is there, but we have to, I think what we also got to watch is, again, in that balance.

What do we chase?

Because if we just chase the engineering, we miss magic.

If we just chase the mystical, we find ourself caught up in trying to give meaning to that Lego set that was on the floor that my kids didn't pick up.

And what color was it?

And why did I walk out that door and almost step on the Legos?

But if I had gone out the other door, I usually go out of, I would have gone there, I would have got there early and wouldn't have run into the boss.

So you can start to give too much meaning

Meaning on that as well, I think we can give significance in too many places.

And all of a sudden, I think we've all been there where you're seeing art in every single thing.

Man, that can be paralyzing.

It's like, it's hard to leave a room if everything's significant, you know, or if everything's a sign.

It's awesome when you can do it.

Did you engineer, though, I'm going to put myself in the place when you got on the plane to go to the destination?

That was an engineered choice.

Yes.

With the intent of, and maybe I'll meet and I'll run into and I can work up a sit down with.

So the engineer choice was putting your shoes on, proverbially.

I always say this, the hardest part about going to the gym is putting your shoes on, right?