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Matthew Prince

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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

Those of us who have, you know, a little bit of gray hair, been around around a while, you know, kind of sometimes long for the Internet of old, which was more local, more unique, more creative, more quirky.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

And that, you know, you would stumble across things that were that were, you know, super, super interesting.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

What gives me hope is it turns out that what AI companies value is more unique, more local, more original, more quirky.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

And the best example of this is who is it that has struck the best deal with the AI companies?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

And the answer is Reddit.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

Reddit and the New York Times, if you add up their total catalogs, have about the same number of tokens in them.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

The New York Times has obviously been around a lot longer.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

Reddit produces more on a daily basis.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

But it's roughly the same.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

And yet the publicly available deal that we know that Reddit did versus the publicly available deals that we know that the New York Times has done, Reddit got about seven times more per token than the New York Times.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

And the question is why?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

And I think the answer is exactly what you said, which is I love the New York Times.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

I think they're a great media organization.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

I love the Wall Street Journal.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

I think they're a great media organization.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

And so is the FT and so is the Washington Post.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

And so is, you know, a lot of different newspapers that are out there.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

But the differences between them are actually relatively de minimis.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

And you might say, well, you know, the New York Times is more liberal and the Wall Street Journal is more conservative.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the collapse of the internet economy (and what comes next)

But it turns out that if I take, you know, OpenAI, ChatGPT and train it on the Wall Street Journal and then say, OK, give me these stories.