Matthew Prince

We're working on things like encrypted SNI, which closes one of the real privacy holes in the internet.

That's

That's that that's pretty rarefied air that that we get to that we get to breathe.

And I think that she's she's really proud of the work that we're that we're doing.

And and and doesn't doesn't really think that I could I could do it again.

I don't even know what that is.

So tell me more what that is.

Well, I mean, I think, you know, if I wasn't the CEO of Cloudflare, I'd be worried about Cloudflare because because we are you know, we are a centralizing force.

And I think that the Internet goes through waves of technology in general, goes through waves of centralization, decentralization.

Jim Barksdale, one of the.

Co-founders of Netscape said there are only two ways to make money in technology.

You can either bundle or unbundle.

And so, you know, I think it is obvious that there will be great forces trying to figure out how to unbundle who the leaders are today and whether that's Cloudflare or Facebook or Google or otherwise.

that history doesn't stop.

And so it's something that we're watching.

I think it's smart that Mark over at Facebook is thinking about that.

I don't know whether it's going to be crypto in any of the forms that it is today, but I do think that something decentralized is important.

And I think that that is likely to be disruptive to a number of companies that are very successful today, including potentially ours.

I was a student at Clay Christensen's.

And so I think Innovator's Dilemma.