Matthew Ridge

Fresh up in the deep end.

Yeah, it was fresh up in the deep end, yeah.

We just hit it off, like, and Julie, like, Julie paid us pretty well.

Like, it was, I can't remember what we were getting, but, like, like, it would be fair to say, like, this back in those days,

Like with all our TV gigs and, you know, not like wearing T-shirts and shit like that, but we were probably earning a quarter of a million bucks a year between us.

And this is in the 90s.

Yeah.

Right, which is a fucking shitload, right, to do pretty much nothing.

You know, like just to... Have a good time.

Just to run around and have a laugh.

And then we'd pick up, you know, all the other stuff we'd pick up after that, you know, like whether it'd be...

You know, DTR was doing DTR ads and shit.

But they were, like, it was picking up big coin, you know, for back then, but...

Macca and I just, I don't know, like he was, Macca was a very, very shrewd, shrewd.

Like he, Macca worried about what people thought of him.

I didn't.

Not what people thought about him.

I didn't give a fuck about what people thought about me, right?

So he was always the loved one.

I was always the hated one.