Matthew Tuerk

I hate saying both sides, but for both sides, right?

There's legislation.

So I think that... So we amended our zoning... Like right after we amended our zoning ordinance, we then... We made an amendment to the ordinance with reference to data centers.

The reality for a city like Allentown and most cities in the country is that we don't really have any space for data centers.

It's unlikely that a hyperscale... Well, it's not just unlikely.

A hyperscaler cannot...

located in the city of Allentown unless they acquire a bunch of homes and demolish them.

There's just no space or something like that.

But it is reality in places like Phoenix, right?

So we amended our zoning code to just set up certain requirements around the establishment of a data center.

Just to make sure that our backs are covered.

The worst thing that happens in any municipality is like something shows up that people don't want and your hands are tied because your zoning allows for it.

So we made sure that we are covered in that respect.

Is that what that means?

We're in the process of review right now to make sure that any proposed data center has to demonstrate not just the highway use or the water use, but also like energy sources.

So we're making sure that...

data centers that are proposed for the city can demonstrate their compliance, basically.

So it's political.

As I understand the technology, and this is probably the less sophisticated side of the thought, it's getting smaller and smaller, right?

The data centers do not have to exist to take up lots and lots of land.