Matthew Tuerk

You're kind of giving away your most precious resource.

So a lot of it was driven by how do you...

kind of capture the spirit of American manufacturing.

Now COVID hit and all of a sudden that's what brought in the stark relief.

That's what made it make sense.

So one of the things that I think makes a ton of sense and we still see a lot of in Allentown, whether it's the transistors or it's the bag manufacturing or Westport Axle manufactures axles for Mack trucks.

in Allentown area, it's components, right?

It's how do you, how do you de-risk the supply chain by diversifying your component manufacturing?

That makes a lot of sense in cities because you're not building the whole truck there, right?

And to build the whole truck, you need something like Lordstown or Lordstown.

You need River Rouge.

You need the

enormous factories.

When you're building the components, whatever those components might look like, you can exist in a much smaller form factor, something as small as 40,000 square feet.

But even to get down to what we were calling craft manufacturing at the time, you might be able to exist in a much smaller space and perhaps

The ground floor of a mixed use building.

And that's where the next step for us was and what more cities should be doing, I think, is making sure that your zoning allows for light industrial to take place in residential neighborhoods so that you're not kind of.

You have to make sure that you allow this stuff to happen in your city.

And the new manufacturing, we think about Pittsburgh in the early part of the 20th century as being so thick with smog that you couldn't even see across the river.

You still see pictures of smog.