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Matthew Walker

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

And we're an embodied organism.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

We study the organism in silos, neurology, psychiatry, cardiology, you know, respiratory...

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

But they all interact.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

And so I think what's lovely about your example is the reminder that if you don't study the body in this study of the glymphatic system, you could miss out a profound explanation that parsimoniously accounts for the head-scratching, I don't know why we're getting this result.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

So that's a long way to come back to it.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

But the same group that was the pioneer in the discovery of the glymphatic system, led by Macon Neddegaard at the University of Rochester,

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

He has gone on to then look to say, well, if this is a sleep-dependent process of brain cleansing during deep sleep, what about sleeping pills?

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

Because so many people are either taking or are addicted to sleeping pills.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

And we've gone through it.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

We're in the era of Web 3.0 with sleeping pills.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

We started off Web 1.0, which were the benzos, the kind of temazepam, diazepam, lorazepam.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

Then we went to Web 2.0, which was sort of the Ambien's Zolpidem, Linesta, Sonata.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

And what was common about those two classes of drugs is that they both went after something called the GABA receptor in the brain, which is this major inhibitory receptor in the brain.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

And essentially they were called sedative hypnotics because they sedated your cortex.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

And when you take an Ambien, I'm not going to argue you're awake.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

You're clearly not awake.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

But to argue you're in naturalistic sleep, if you look at the physiology, is an equal fallacy.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

So they made this interesting experimental hypothesis that when you take Ambien, you sleep longer.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

And based on how you score deep sleep,

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

it would seem as though Ambien increases the amount of minutes that you spend in deep sleep.