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Matthew Walker

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Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

So these drugs come in to your system and unlike the sedative sort of baseball bat to the cortex, which is Ambien, these drugs are much more elegant.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

They go down towards the brainstem and they just dial down the volume on wakefulness

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

And then they step back and they allow the antithesis of wakefulness to come in its place, which is this thing called naturalistic sleep.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

And people sleep longer.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

So as a scientist, you and I, perhaps skeptics, would then say, well, so you increase sleep, and I have four words for you.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

Yes, and so what?

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

Just because you increase sleep, it doesn't mean that it's functional sleep.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

It could just be like the old notion of junk DNA, that it's epiphenomenal sleep.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

It's not functional sleep.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

There was a study out of Wash U, and they took 85-year-olds and above, and they gave them one of these Dora's drugs.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

It's a drug called Belsomra, B-E-L-Somra, to play on good sleep or beautiful sleep, chemical named suvarexant.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

And randomized placebo control, what they found is that when they took the drug, yes, these older adults slept longer.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

They had more deep sleep.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

But then what they did was clever.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

Before and after the night of sleep, they drew blood because we can now measure markers of beta amyloid and tau protein circulating in the bloodstream, which are these two markers of Alzheimer's disease.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

Why is that relevant to the glymphatic system?

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

It's relevant because two of the pieces of metabolic detritus that the cleansing system washes away at night, beta amyloid and tau.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

And sure enough, what they found was that not only did the adults sleep longer with these sleeping medications, they also had a greater clearance of beta-amyloid and tau within the bloodstream.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

So this was the exact opposite of the Ambien study, which was where they were seeing an impairment in the glymphatic activity.

Ground Truths
Matthew Walker: Promoting Our Sleep Health

Here in humans was a study with the Web 3.0 sleep medications, Stuvorexant.