Matua Mark

i always one thing i do when i listen to i look at the time of songs if i see a whole body of work with minute 32 10 like i'm like i get it it's the radio thing but first track's four minutes so i think it says the time but the first track is called maintain i just want to play it out a little bit just to set the tone there's another downs new album uh first track of the album let's have a quick little listen

See, those chords, that's what I'm talking about.

Is that Bailey Wiley?

Chef Nation.

Mellow Downs.

I was in my car cruising and I was like...

that's just a snippet that's just a snippet but like for me off the bat I'm like man I like where it's going sonically I like the beat selection and then I think you have this uncanny you know special gift of being able to contextualise um

the moments of life for people that they can attach themselves to and see themselves in.

And bro, I just, I mean to say it because I just, I've been waiting for New Zealand music.

I felt this way listening to this the first time I heard Zagatron with Troy Kingi.

Diggy's Panthers album, you know, like these sort of, it's something.

So I know that's a lot.

You're probably like, bro, chill out.

A hundred percent.

So, bro, talk to me about this album, like where you were creatively and the kind of stories people are going to hear on this.

Nah, it's super dope.

You're so right.

Now that I think about it, you explain it like that, it does break up what can feel like those kind of serious undertones.

But even how you've constructed what you've written, you're always kind of just keeping us there before.

And it's not that people aren't capable of going deep.