Maureen Callahan

It's better TV.

I'm going to counter you.

It's better TV if you can act like you're just as upset as your friend over this unthinkable violent tragedy.

That's even better TV.

Yes, they were fighting over this.

Yes, in the framing, Mark, it feels intrusive where she's like jackknifing the top of her body further into the frame, further into Savannah's personal space, which it's sort of like, I'm getting in here.

I'm pushing myself into this narrative, but I got to ask you something about the lip licking and the eye thing, because like for me, that lip licking, it literally brought to mind the phrase licking one's chops.

Like I'm relishing this.

I am licking my chops at the gory details that I'm getting out of you.

And the eye flutter, it felt to me like this was like a professional orgasm.

Regardless of how it shakes out, I just love that this is an actual conversation we have had on The Nerve about the motions of Hoda's tongue and what nefarious stuff it may imply.

And it's a Nerve Award 2026 already, Mark, this segment.

You are winning one.

Okay, our final wrapping up of this and our time together.

I want to talk to you about the reaction of the Today Show hosts on the couch.

We're going to take this in two parts.

Lovely.

This is immediately after...

They aired a good chunk of the Savannah exclusive.

Again, this is the first time she has spoken since her mother was abducted.