Maureen Callahan

Not just that, Mark, but it's another sort of example of be careful what you wish for.

You can get all the fame and money and power and access in the world, and you will not

be protected from something like this happening.

In fact, Savannah says in the interview, she thinks it's because of those things that her mother was taken.

And so that I think too, is like one, like she is way more valuable now.

She is a ratings gold mine, at least in the immediate.

And I just think there's also resentment.

I see resentment on that sofa.

Like we still, we're still talking about this.

We're still talking about this.

No safer in first class if that plane's going to.

In fact, what they often say is if you're in the back, you got a better chance of survival.

Metaphor of all metaphors.

Mark, you are utterly front to back brilliant.

We love talking to you.

Thank you for breaking all of this down with us for A Perfect Friday Nerve.

See you soon.

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