Maury Povich

She is, you never know what's going to come out of her mouth.

I mean, I had her on my first podcast on par with Mari Popovic.

She was my first guest.

I didn't know it was going to happen.

You never know what's happening with her.

I mean, she can be, when it comes to me, she can be very insulting and do it in a humorous way.

And I'm much more serious personally than she is.

But we've always, I mean, our...

our axiom has always been, we always took our, our work seriously and never took ourselves seriously.

And so, uh, we really don't take each other seriously.

Maybe that's why she just, you know, there, there is no way you can never, uh,

Well, I'll tell you, I'm,

There might have been only because, I mean, the thread, Daniel, for my entire career was, you know, I was chasing other people's stories.

I was always looking at events.

It was never about me.

When I did the talk show, it was about the guests.

It was about their stories.

I was never able to kind of reveal myself.

And so with the podcast, it's great.

I mean, I feel unchained.