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Max Howell

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The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY — Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

It's too late.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY — Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

It's too late.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY — Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

Oh, there's more, but those are the things that people care about.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY — Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

Oh, there's more, but those are the things that people care about.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY — Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

Yeah, yeah. It was an important little pointer for me. I appreciate that. Okay. That's all I remember. Yeah, I was trying to do too much. That was what was T-Klee, which we now call Package X. Okay. And... Well, I was very much aware of the fact that homebrew is enormous. And here I was trying to do homebrew 2.0, something I said I'd never do.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY — Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

Yeah, yeah. It was an important little pointer for me. I appreciate that. Okay. That's all I remember. Yeah, I was trying to do too much. That was what was T-Klee, which we now call Package X. Okay. And... Well, I was very much aware of the fact that homebrew is enormous. And here I was trying to do homebrew 2.0, something I said I'd never do.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY — Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

And I think Ryan Dahl with Dino is seeing the same kind of problems, right? Once you've had something that's a huge success, how do you make something that is... as big even as that. So you've got this enormous momentum behind the previous thing. So I was very much aware of that when I was building out Teakley.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY — Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

And I think Ryan Dahl with Dino is seeing the same kind of problems, right? Once you've had something that's a huge success, how do you make something that is... as big even as that. So you've got this enormous momentum behind the previous thing. So I was very much aware of that when I was building out Teakley.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY — Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

And so I put too much into it thinking, well, that's the only way I'm going to get people to come on board with it. Right. Right. And you point out quite sagely, I think it made me realize that, yeah, it was doing too many things and that was just confusing. So we whittled it down to just what it is now, which is like an executor for packages.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY — Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

And so I put too much into it thinking, well, that's the only way I'm going to get people to come on board with it. Right. Right. And you point out quite sagely, I think it made me realize that, yeah, it was doing too many things and that was just confusing. So we whittled it down to just what it is now, which is like an executor for packages.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY — Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

So you don't think about installing them, you just run them. And that's enormously powerful, actually. I think over the next few years, people are going to start seeing that. Because it's so good for scripting, for example. You can write a package X shebang in your script and then add all the packages you want.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY — Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

So you don't think about installing them, you just run them. And that's enormously powerful, actually. I think over the next few years, people are going to start seeing that. Because it's so good for scripting, for example. You can write a package X shebang in your script and then add all the packages you want.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY — Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

And then you've got a portable script you can just pass around that you don't have to worry about if people have things installed or not. It opens up the entire open source ecosystem to it. So I've got a few things planned to use that. But we realized along the way, this is all part of T protocol, right?

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY — Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

And then you've got a portable script you can just pass around that you don't have to worry about if people have things installed or not. It opens up the entire open source ecosystem to it. So I've got a few things planned to use that. But we realized along the way, this is all part of T protocol, right?

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY — Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

That even though we thought initially we would be putting functionality for the protocol into TKli, actually no that doesn't make sense it's diffusing the messaging once again i think i was a little too influenced by our investors and that's why we went down that path but we course corrected so now we're completely focused on just the protocol which

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY — Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

That even though we thought initially we would be putting functionality for the protocol into TKli, actually no that doesn't make sense it's diffusing the messaging once again i think i was a little too influenced by our investors and that's why we went down that path but we course corrected so now we're completely focused on just the protocol which

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY — Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

You know, that was the original vision that I had to build something that could help people who create open source to actually, you know, get some of that value that they create back to themselves rather than just creating value for people who build on top of it.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY — Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

You know, that was the original vision that I had to build something that could help people who create open source to actually, you know, get some of that value that they create back to themselves rather than just creating value for people who build on top of it.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY — Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

Yeah, so we've built it. We've been running the testnet since February, and we got 1.7 million people who've signed up to use this testnet, which are pretty great numbers by any standards, but especially in the Web3 space, you don't get that kind of users.

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
ANTHOLOGY — Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)

Yeah, so we've built it. We've been running the testnet since February, and we got 1.7 million people who've signed up to use this testnet, which are pretty great numbers by any standards, but especially in the Web3 space, you don't get that kind of users.

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