ANTHOLOGY — Packages, pledges & protocols (Interview)
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Okay, friends, this is the changelog and we're going back to the hallway track at All Things Open 2024 in Raleigh, North Carolina. This episode features Carl George, Principal Software Engineer at Red Hat for discussion on the state of open source enterprise Linux and RHEL, better known as Red Hat Enterprise Linux. We talked to Max Howe, creator of Homebrew and the Tea Protocol at Tea.xyz, which offers rewards and recognition to open source maintainers. And last, we talked to Chad Whitaker, head of open source at Century, about the launch of Open Source Pledge and their plans to help businesses and orgs do the right thing and support open source. A massive thank you to our friends at fly.io.
That is the home of changelog.com. Deploy your app in five minutes at fly.io. Okay, let's do this. What's up, friends? I'm here with Dave Rosenthal, CTO of Sentry. So Dave, when I look at Sentry, I see you driving towards full application health, error monitoring where things began, session replay, being able to replay a view of the interface a user had going on when they experienced an issue with full tracing, full data, the advancements you're making with tracing and profiling, cron monitoring, code coverage, user feedback. and just tons of integrations. Give me a glimpse into the inevitable future. What are you driving towards?
Yeah, one of the things that we're seeing is that in the past, people had separate systems where they had logs on servers written to files. They were maybe sending some metrics to Datadog or something like that or some other system. They were monitoring for errors with some product, maybe with Sentry. But more and more what we see is people want all of these sources of telemetry logically tied together somehow. And that's really what we're pursuing at Sentry now. We have this concept of a trace ID, which is kind of a key that ties together all of the pieces of data that are associated with the user action. So if user loads a web page, we want to tie together all the server requests that happened, any errors that happened, any metrics that were collected. And what that allows on the back end You don't just have to look at like three different graphs and sort of line them up in time and try to draw your own conclusions.
You can actually like analyze and slice and dice the data and say, hey, what did this metric look like for people with this operating system versus this metric look like for people with this operating system and actually get into those details. So this kind of idea of. Tying all of the telemetry data together using this concept of a trace ID or basically some key, I think is a big win for developers trying to diagnose and debug real world systems in something that is, we're kind of charged the path for that for everybody.
Okay. Let's see you get there. Let's see you get there tomorrow. Yeah. Perfectly. How will systems be different? How will teams be different as a result?
Yeah, I mean, I guess again, I'll just keep saying it maybe, but I think it kind of goes back to this debugability experience. When you are digging into an issue, you know, having a sort of a richer data model that's, you know, your logs are structured, they're sort of this hierarchical structure with spans. And not only is it just the spans that are structured, they're tied to errors, they're tied to other things. So when you have the data model that's kind of interconnected, it opens up all different kinds of analysis that were just kind of either very manual before, kind of guessing that maybe this log happened at the same time as this other thing, or we're just impossible. We get excited not only about the new kinds of issues that we can detect with that interconnected data model, but also just for every issue that we do detect, how easy it is to get to the bottom of it.
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