Max Howell

All those smart contracts are transparent and readable. You can see what's going on. Right. So I'm hoping a few success stories after the launch, people will start to reconsider. I have an idea for you.

Seems like a pretty genius idea, to be honest. I might have to give you an advisory token allocation. But yeah, like... You got a wallet?

There's certainly stuff we could do if the main idea doesn't work out. But my passion won't be in it.

It would suck, but not everything always works out. You know, you kind of accept that when you're building things. Yeah. I think it would be a real shame if the only reason it doesn't work out is crypto skepticism.

I just, you know, did a bad job.

Yeah. I'll certainly go away and think about it. I don't think it's likely we would launch with both. Partly because, you know, we're a small team at this point.

You're currently tracking... Well, we do do the dependency graph against all projects everywhere. Already? Yeah. Gotcha.

There's certainly lots of things we can do with the data, like the Chai database, on-chain, Oracle. It's got all the dependency data, and it's got the rankings. We're exploring the idea of building out S-bombs based on that, which give you actual impact for your stack, and threat identification, essentially. Allowing companies to donate or stake based on the S-bomb we're generating.

The idea of building out some sort of polymarket-esque thing as well. But as you say, other people can do that, right? The data is on the train, you can build against it. It's one of the things we're looking forward to, actually, is seeing what the Overtools community just do on top of these primitives that we've built for them.

Almost, you know, because like I was saying... Because it wouldn't solve homebrew's problem. Not itself, no, interestingly. Homebrew isn't even actually in the system because it's not packaged by anything. Right. Pretty popular project, though. Kind of embarrassing for me. But it's a limitation of the current model. Yeah.

Like once Chai is open sourced, which, spoiler alert, I'm doing that during my keynote in an hour. Nice. We're hoping that people will come forward with suggestions for how to fill in these gaps and help us to build it out.

to use this particular... Well, sometimes you can be a command line tool, because some of the command line tools are dependencies of other command line tools. Sure.

Well, we don't really track usage either, of course, but... But you would want to, right?

Well, we have a new idea that we've been developing over the last few months that will fix this, that we'll be announcing next year. It's a different... You want to spoiler alert us? I... better not, better not. But it's rather lovely. I'm very excited about it, and it does solve some of these issues for a different use. It tries to tap into the fundamental utility of open source.

So phase one, we're releasing this essentially a remuneration platform for open source maintainers. Phase two is exposing the real value of what open source represents. And yeah, it should be pretty exciting.

No, I... You said something... We use Base, which is Coinbase's blockchain.

To be disclosed, where we will be selling.

Yeah, so going into this, that was definitely one of the things I wanted to achieve. And we have ideas for how that could play out with what we've built already. We're kind of securing it to some extent because we're securing the maintainer's ability to actually work on these things. But we have plans later.

One of them is inside the thing I was just talking about that we're going to be announcing early next year, which do have tangible benefits. as extra security benefits to the open source ecosystem.

T.XYZ, is that right? Yeah, T.XYZ. T, the drink. T-E-A. T-E-A. Not T-E-E or just the letter T. T, yeah. With hindsight, the name wasn't great.