Max Israel

And that's true across my space.

I'm in a space called Enterprise Feedback Management, EFM.

And there are many companies that do this.

And it's an industry that is valued in the many tens of billions of dollars.

So there's a lot of players in the space.

But generally, you think of this as Enterprise Feedback Management.

I haven't raised any money.

But, you know, we were successful kind of out of the gate.

This is like you probably see this story a lot with your with entrepreneurs that you interview.

It's not hard to get revenue.

It's hard to feed your family.

And so you've got to get through those early years where you can get enough revenue to cover the needs of the business and feed your family.

We laugh.

My wife and I laugh that we, you know, I mentioned 15 years ago that we had this other business that was the genesis of this one.

I owned a small retail chain and this tool was designed to, really, we built it for that.

It was probably two or three years before I took my first paycheck, right?

So we considered, we continued to pay ourselves from that other business.

And

Eventually, I took a small salary, a small paycheck of $1,000 a month or something like that.

From the current company, my software company.