Max Kellerman

The two post-seasons where he goes 4-0.

Dude, he was... He came out so far ahead of everybody else who ever lived that Nate redid the methodology because he's like, come on, Eli can't be this kind of an outlier above Joe Montana and everybody.

Let's get all the Trent Dilfers out.

Yeah.

And I'm going to redo the methodology and see who comes out number one.

And so when he redid it, it was close.

Eli Manning won, Joe Montana too.

So, so that, right.

And that was because when you think it's not just the Super Bowls, he went on the road.

He beat Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers at Lambeau.

Yeah.

Right.

Like he was, he had tough matchups on the road for two playoff series and he won two Super Bowls.

Butterfly effect, right?

Like if a butterfly had flapped its wings in China, we're not having this conversation about Eli.

But it didn't.

That's actually what happened.

And he's a two-time Super Bowl MVP.

There have not been that many of them.

And Bill, so I said, once upon a time, famously, infamously, because it became a meme, fate of the universe on the line, I want Iguodala, right?