Max Kellerman

He's an incredible player, Jokic, but I'm with you.

He's a guy who, like, one championship would make, like Aaron Rodgers.

Aaron Rodgers just winning one Super Bowl

it ain't going to cut it in the all-time arguments because his talent suggests, like, wait, you're with Drew Brees and them?

You're so much better than those guys, right?

But this is why Curry's 22 is so important.

Because that's the first time he was the best player on either team in a championship.

For me, that put Curry in the top 10 ever conversation, regardless of position.

If I have nothing,

I have garbage on my team, and I want to get my team as close as possible to winning a championship.

LeBron James is the answer to that, right?

I would throw Jokic in there, too, though.

Yeah, not good.

You can take it.

My pick all time would be LeBron.

If you have something... I think that's fair.

If you have something on your team, my pick is Michael Jordan.

Because every time Michael Jordan ever played with one other all-star, except for when he came back for 20-something games, he won.

He never didn't win the championship in under seven games.

Right.