Max Lugavere

And it's not, it's very far outside my wheelhouse.

So what are some of the stigmas that you have that are attached to it?

I mean, I personally don't, I think my primary concern was the fertility stuff.

Like I don't have kids and I, you know, I think at some point I may want one or two.

And then you often hear stuff about like,

Well, I'm in the sort of wellness fitness space where, you know, you see a lot of people that use it to get like to push their testosterone to like super physiologic levels to get jacked.

Interesting.

So you can actually take it.

You can dose it in a way that's like physiologic and healthy.

Yeah, no.

I mean, I have friends who, you know, from one day to the next, like,

how did that person put on 20 pounds of muscle seemingly overnight?

And then, you know, months later they reveal that they're on, you know, some concoction.

It might have been some steroid too.

Yeah.

Like some anabolic, like anavar trend.

Yeah.

Do you have a weight training regimen?

Do you like, do you have a resistance training routine?

Have you ever had to make a really dramatic body composition shift for a role?