Max Nestorak

And now Minneapolis looks like it is, as we speak at this moment, on the brink of something potentially terrible here.

So let me ask you about the stakes of somebody like Nick Shirley just asking questions, knocking on doors and then putting it on YouTube and getting all the way to the president of the United States.

How do you make sense of the chronology of events here?

Well, I think it's too early right now, to be honest, to peg any of this on Nick Shirley.

I don't think it's fair to say that this is the reason why this person ended up being shot.

Now, I think that the question that people should be asking about this is,

is when you are trying to fulfill certain quotas in terms of deportations and you don't have enough officers to do it, who are you bringing on, you know?

What training are they receiving?

I think that sort of talking about a YouTube video and a moment of what I believed was like a little bit overblown moral panic and what I thought was, you know, had for many people pretty xenophobic and racist incentives behind it,

Like, I don't know if that's the thing to talk about in a moment like this.

I think what we should be focusing on is why did this guy see the need to fire into a car that was going away from him?

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