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Max Tegmark

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Lex Fridman Podcast
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0

Maybe it's a computer verified proof, but still it says that under no circumstances is this car just going to swerve into oncoming traffic.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0

And I think even in very short term, if you look at how, you know, today, right, this absolutely pathetic state of cybersecurity that we have, where is it, 3 billion Yahoo accounts were hacked, almost every American's credit card and so on.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0

You know, why is this happening?

Lex Fridman Podcast
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0

It's ultimately happening because we have software that nobody fully understood how it worked.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0

That's why the bugs hadn't been found, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0

And I think AI can be used very effectively for offense, for hacking, but it can also be used for defense, hopefully automating verifiability and creating systems that are built in different ways so you can actually prove things about them.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0

And it's important.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0

I think there are a number of very important insights, very important lessons we can all redraw from these kind of successes.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0

One of them is when you look at the human brain, you see it's very complicated.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0

10th of 11 neurons, and there are all these different kinds of neurons, and yada yada, and there's been this long debate about whether the fact that we have dozens of different kinds is actually necessary for intelligence.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0

We can now, I think, quite convincingly answer that question of no.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0

It's enough to have just one kind.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0

If you look under the hood of alpha zero, there's only one kind of neuron, and it's ridiculously simple.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0

Simple mathematical thing.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0

It's just like in physics.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0

If you have a gas with waves in it, it's not the detailed nature of the molecule that matters.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0

It's the collective behavior somehow.

Lex Fridman Podcast
Max Tegmark: Life 3.0

Similarly, it's this higher level structure of the network that matters, not that you have 20 kinds of neurons.