Max Tegmark
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What do we want it to mean to be human in the age of AI, in the age of AGI?
So if we can have this conversation,
broad, inclusive conversation and gradually start converging towards some, some future that with some direction, at least that we want to steer towards right then, then we'll be much more motivated to constructively take on the obstacles.
And I think if I, if I had to, if you make, if I try to wrap this up in a more succinct way, I think, I think we can all agree already now that we should aspire to
To build AGI that doesn't overpower us, but that empowers us.
And just because you can build an autonomous vehicle, even if you could build one that would drive this fine, maybe there are some things in life that we would actually want to do ourselves.
Like, for example, if you think of our society as a whole, there are some things that we find very meaningful to do.
And that doesn't mean we have to stop doing them just because machines can do them better.
I'm not gonna stop playing tennis just the day someone built a tennis robot and beat me.
Yeah, and in the very near term even, some people are advocating basic income, replace jobs.
But if the government is gonna be willing to just hand out cash to people for doing nothing,
then one should also seriously consider whether the government should also hire a lot more teachers and nurses and the kind of jobs which people often find great fulfillment in doing, right?
We get very tired of hearing politicians saying, oh, we can't afford hiring more teachers, but we're going to maybe have basic income.
If we can have more serious research and thought into what gives meaning to our lives, the jobs give so much more than income, right?
And then think about in the future, what are the roles that we want to have?
How people continually feeling empowered by machines.
And we should be, because...
Politicians usually just focus on the next election cycle, right?
The single most important thing I feel we humans have learned in the entire history of science is that we're the masters of underestimation.