Max Tegmark

And if you can also swap out your hardware and take any physical form you want, of course, really the sky's the limit.

Yeah, and I think it's worth...

commenting a bit on what you means in this context also if you swap things out a lot right now this is controversial but my current understanding is that that you know life is best thought of not as a bag of meat or even a bag of

elementary particles, but rather as a system which can process information and retain its own complexity, even though nature is always trying to mess it up.

So it's all about information processing.

And that makes it a lot like something like a wave in the ocean, which is not its water molecules, right?

The water molecules bob up and down, but the wave moves forward.

It's an information pattern.

In the same way, you, Lex, you're not the same atoms as during the first time you did with me.

You've swapped out most of them, but it's still you.

And the information pattern is still there.

And if you could swap out your arms and whatever...

You can still have this kind of continuity.

It becomes much more sophisticated sort of way forward in time where the information lives on.

I lost both of my parents since our last podcast.

And it actually gives me a lot of solace that this way of thinking about them, they haven't entirely died because a lot of mommy and daddies... Sorry, I'm getting a little emotional here.

But a lot of their values...

and ideas and even jokes and so on, they haven't gone away, right?

Some of them live on, I can carry on some of them, and they also live on in a lot of other people.

So in this sense, even with life 2.0, we can, to some extent, already transcend our physical bodies and our death.