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Max Tegmark

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

The right thing to do is change the whole incentive structure instead.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

And this is not an old, maybe I should say one more thing about this, because Moloch has been around as humanity's number one or number two enemy since the beginning of civilization.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

And we came up with some really cool countermeasures.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

First of all, already over 100,000 years ago, evolution realized that it was very unhelpful that people kept killing each other all the time.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

So it genetically gave us compassion.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

and made it so that if you get two drunk dudes getting into a pointless bar fight, they might give each other black eyes, but they have a lot of inhibition towards just killing each other.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

And similarly, if you find a baby lying on the street when you go out for your morning jog tomorrow, you're gonna stop and pick it up, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

Even though it may make you late for your next podcast.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

So evolution gave us these genes that make our own egoistic incentives more aligned with what's good for the greater group we're part of, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

And then as we got a bit more sophisticated and developed language, we invented gossip, which is also a fantastic anti-Moloch, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

Because now it really discourages people

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

liars, moochers, cheaters, because their own incentive now is not to do this because word quickly gets around and then suddenly people aren't going to invite them to their dinners anymore or trust them.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

And then when we got still more sophisticated in bigger societies, you know, invented the legal system where even strangers who couldn't rely on gossip and things like this would treat each other, would have an incentive.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

Now those guys in the bar fight, even if someone is so drunk that he...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

actually wants to kill the other guy.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

He also has a little thought in the back of his head that, you know, do I really wanna spend the next 10 years eating like really crappy food in a small room?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

I'm just gonna chill out, you know?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

And we similarly have tried to give these incentives to our corporations by having regulation and all sorts of oversight so that their incentives are aligned with the greater good.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

We tried really hard.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

And the big problem that we're failing now is not that we haven't tried before, but it's just that the tech is growing much, is developing much faster than the regulators have been able to keep up, right?