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Max Tegmark

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

That's what's going to happen.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

Both.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

To be blunt, my personal guess, you know, and people can quibble with this, is that we're just gonna, there won't be any humans.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

That's it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

That's what I mean by lose.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

You know, if you, we can see in history, once you have some species or some group of people who aren't needed anymore, doesn't usually work out so well for them, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

Yeah.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

There were a lot of horses that were used for traffic in Boston, and then the car got invented, and most of them got, you know, we don't need to go there.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

And if you look at humans, you know, right now, why did the labor movement succeed after the Industrial Revolution?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

Because it was needed.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

Even though we had a lot of Molochs and there was child labor and so on, the company still needed to have workers.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

And that's why strikes had power and so on.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

If we get to the point where most humans aren't needed anymore, I think it's quite naive to think that they're going to still be treated well.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

You know, we say that, yeah, yeah, everybody's equal and the government will always protect them.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

But if you look in practice, groups that are very disenfranchised and don't have any actual power usually get screwed.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

And now in the beginning, so industrial revolution, we automated away muscle work.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

But that worked out pretty well eventually because we educated ourselves and started working with our brains instead and got usually more interesting, better paid jobs.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

But now we're beginning to replace brain work.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

So we replaced a lot of boring stuff, like we got the pocket calculator so you don't have people multiplying numbers anymore at work.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

Fine.