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Max Tegmark

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

You trust scientists like Einstein who said something everybody thought was bullshit and turned out to be right.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

You get a lot of trust points, and he did it multiple times even.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

I think AI has the power to really heal a lot of the rifts we're seeing by creating trust systems.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

get away from this idea today with some fact-checking sites, which might themselves have an agenda and you just trust it because of its reputation.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

You want to have it so these sort of systems, they earn their trust and they're completely transparent.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

This I think would actually help a lot.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

That can, I think, help heal the very dysfunctional conversation that humanity has about how it's going to deal with all its biggest challenges in the world today.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

And then on the technical side, another common sort of gloom comment I get from people who are saying, we're just screwed.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

There's no hope.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

is, well, things like GPT-4 are way too complicated for a human to ever understand and prove that they can be trustworthy.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

They're forgetting that AI can help us prove that things work, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

And there's this very fundamental fact that in math, it's much harder to come up with a proof than it is to verify that the proof is correct.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

You can actually write a little proof checking code.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

It's quite short.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

that you can as human understand.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

And then it can check the most monstrously long proof ever generated even by a computer and say, yeah, this is valid.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

So right now we have this approach with virus checking software that it looks to see if there's something you should not trust it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

And if it can prove to itself that you should not trust that code, it warns you, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

Yeah.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#371 โ€“ Max Tegmark: The Case for Halting AI Development

What if you flip this around?