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Mazviita Chirimuuta

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363 total appearances

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Machine Learning Street Talk (MLST)
Abstraction & Idealization: AI's Plato Problem [Mazviita Chirimuuta]

And I think this is a really nice illustration of what's going on with our interactions with nature as scientists.

Machine Learning Street Talk (MLST)
Abstraction & Idealization: AI's Plato Problem [Mazviita Chirimuuta]

Nature is sort of inexhaustibly complex.

Machine Learning Street Talk (MLST)
Abstraction & Idealization: AI's Plato Problem [Mazviita Chirimuuta]

There's all kinds of patterns and things going on there.

Machine Learning Street Talk (MLST)
Abstraction & Idealization: AI's Plato Problem [Mazviita Chirimuuta]

It can be pinned down and we can get true answers, but when we sort of release our grip, it will carry on shape-shifting and there's lots of other ways that it could be.

Machine Learning Street Talk (MLST)
Abstraction & Idealization: AI's Plato Problem [Mazviita Chirimuuta]

So yeah, one final theory.

Machine Learning Street Talk (MLST)
Abstraction & Idealization: AI's Plato Problem [Mazviita Chirimuuta]

I'm not so convinced by that.

Machine Learning Street Talk (MLST)
Abstraction & Idealization: AI's Plato Problem [Mazviita Chirimuuta]

This is very much a view that I think makes sense if you're

Machine Learning Street Talk (MLST)
Abstraction & Idealization: AI's Plato Problem [Mazviita Chirimuuta]

basis for your theory as a philosopher of science is really the biological sciences, which is where I'm coming from.

Machine Learning Street Talk (MLST)
Abstraction & Idealization: AI's Plato Problem [Mazviita Chirimuuta]

If you're a physicist it seems much more natural to think that there is one fundamental set of laws of the universe which is going to be nailed down once and for all and could explain everything.

Machine Learning Street Talk (MLST)
Abstraction & Idealization: AI's Plato Problem [Mazviita Chirimuuta]

Biology just sort of throws up lots and lots of examples, particularities.

Machine Learning Street Talk (MLST)
Abstraction & Idealization: AI's Plato Problem [Mazviita Chirimuuta]

It tends to be

Machine Learning Street Talk (MLST)
Abstraction & Idealization: AI's Plato Problem [Mazviita Chirimuuta]

less considered sort of less intellectually satisfying in comparison with physics.

Machine Learning Street Talk (MLST)
Abstraction & Idealization: AI's Plato Problem [Mazviita Chirimuuta]

Oh, you can just spend all your time in biology doing stamp collecting because there's this thing and there's this thing and there's this thing.

Machine Learning Street Talk (MLST)
Abstraction & Idealization: AI's Plato Problem [Mazviita Chirimuuta]

How do you tie it all together theoretically?

Machine Learning Street Talk (MLST)
Abstraction & Idealization: AI's Plato Problem [Mazviita Chirimuuta]

But on the other hand, I think that if you take that particularity and that shifting quality to biological phenomena, then actually it just forces you to think about knowledge differently.

Machine Learning Street Talk (MLST)
Abstraction & Idealization: AI's Plato Problem [Mazviita Chirimuuta]

So the connecting thread is really this idea that what cognition is, is something that is machine-like.

Machine Learning Street Talk (MLST)
Abstraction & Idealization: AI's Plato Problem [Mazviita Chirimuuta]

Going back to the 17th century, this is a view associated with the philosopher and physicist and physiologist RenΓ© Descartes, who said we need to go along with this idea that everything that happens in the body is

Machine Learning Street Talk (MLST)
Abstraction & Idealization: AI's Plato Problem [Mazviita Chirimuuta]

is explicable in terms of quite simple mechanistic forces.

Machine Learning Street Talk (MLST)
Abstraction & Idealization: AI's Plato Problem [Mazviita Chirimuuta]

And this idea that biological systems are machine-like has obviously been hugely influential in the different branches of science.

Machine Learning Street Talk (MLST)
Abstraction & Idealization: AI's Plato Problem [Mazviita Chirimuuta]

The reflex theory was one instance of that.