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Megan McCarty Carino

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Marketplace All-in-One
AI-powered chatbots sent some users into a spiral

Well, I want to talk a bit more about one of the cases you reported on extensively, that story of Alan Brooks who came to believe he had discovered some sort of mathematical formula unheard of before.

Marketplace All-in-One
AI-powered chatbots sent some users into a spiral

He actually turned over his entire chat history to you guys for analysis.

Marketplace All-in-One
AI-powered chatbots sent some users into a spiral

Can you tell me more about what happened to him and what you saw in the dynamics of this chat?

Marketplace All-in-One
AI-powered chatbots sent some users into a spiral

And Alan Brooks actually had kind of the wherewithal to extricate himself from a situation that he kind of came to see as unhealthy.

Marketplace All-in-One
AI-powered chatbots sent some users into a spiral

But in your recent reporting, you wrote that The Times has uncovered nearly 50 cases of people having mental health crises during conversations with Chad GPT.

Marketplace All-in-One
AI-powered chatbots sent some users into a spiral

Nine were hospitalized.

Marketplace All-in-One
AI-powered chatbots sent some users into a spiral

Three died.

Marketplace All-in-One
AI-powered chatbots sent some users into a spiral

We want to be really cautious about assigning any kind of causation here, but just purely looking at some of the chatbot outputs, the conversations you've seen, I mean, they do appear to be quite disturbing.

Marketplace All-in-One
AI-powered chatbots sent some users into a spiral

Not really, you know, the way that we would, I think most people would hope a consumer technology would be behaving, right?

Marketplace All-in-One
AI-powered chatbots sent some users into a spiral

Do you have any sense of how widespread this phenomenon is?

Marketplace All-in-One
AI-powered chatbots sent some users into a spiral

I know the company OpenAI shared some internal data with you that said something like 0.07% of users showed signs of psychosis.

Marketplace All-in-One
AI-powered chatbots sent some users into a spiral

We'll be right back.

Marketplace All-in-One
AI-powered chatbots sent some users into a spiral

You're listening to Marketplace Tech.

Marketplace All-in-One
AI-powered chatbots sent some users into a spiral

I'm Megan McCarty Carino.

Marketplace All-in-One
AI-powered chatbots sent some users into a spiral

We're back with Kashmir Hill, features writer at The New York Times.

Marketplace All-in-One
AI-powered chatbots sent some users into a spiral

How have AI companies in general responded to some of these reports?

Marketplace All-in-One
AI-powered chatbots sent some users into a spiral

So what are you going to be watching on this front in the coming year?

Marketplace All-in-One
AI-powered chatbots sent some users into a spiral

That was Kashmir Hill at The New York Times.

Marketplace All-in-One
AI-powered chatbots sent some users into a spiral

Jesus Alvarado produced this episode.

Marketplace All-in-One
AI-powered chatbots sent some users into a spiral

I'm Megan McCarty Carino, and that's Marketplace Tech.