Meghan McCarty Carino

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We're back with Aviv Ovadia, CEO and founder of the AI and Democracy Foundation.

So often when I come across some kind of AI-generated, you know, image or video that I do realize eventually, you know, is AI, often by looking into the comments first, you know, it's like every time I see something, I just look immediately at the comments to see if someone has suggested, oh, this is AI.

But it's just...

It's just pollution.

It's irritating just as a user of these things.

And then there's this additional layer of, like, how do we as a society and institutions of journalism verify what is real anymore?

What kinds of tax does that create?

One of the tools that we have that it seems like people may be using more of is just general skepticism.

And I could see how that could turn into a kind of nihilism about everything you see, just not believing anything.

I mean, that causes its own problems, right?

So what do we need?

What needs to happen to kind of save our information ecosystem or to recreate some sort of shared reality?

Yeah, I mean, if ever there were a time when, you know, relying on institutions was important, it seems like, you know, this creates those conditions.

And yet we are in this world where institutions maybe feel weaker than ever.

Are you optimistic or pessimistic about that?

That was Aviv Ovadia, CEO and founder of the AI and Democracy Foundation.