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There are so many legal angles to break down on what's going on in Minnesota, and most importantly, were the federal officers justified in using deadly force Saturday against Alex Preddy?

Here to debate the issue is Andrew Branca, an attorney who is a self-defense law expert, as well as the host of the Andrew Branca Show.

And our pal Dave Ehrenberg, who's an MK True Crime host, is also with us today.

He's a lawyer, former Palm Beach County state's attorney as well.

Guys, welcome back to the show.

So...

And I'll kick it off with this, Andrew, real clear politics saying that in their 25 years, you know, as an entity, they have never seen an example where the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, the New York Post and the Washington Post all agreed in their top editorial, which was to call on ICE to settle down and to potentially deescalate in Minnesota.

I don't happen to agree with that.

I know, according to the polls, I'm in the minority.

But it is events like what happened with Alex Preddy that have led to that.

And so your position that this was...

What specifically?

Dave, do you agree with Andrew's statement of the law?

I know you disagree with the application of it, but the statement of the law, does he have it right?

Would you do it, Dave, if you were the DA in this county?

Would you do it?

For you, you're talking about in federal court, the grand jurors or the actual jurors, the petite jurors, the 12.