Mehdi Hassan

And I think there's a gap in the market for Zateo UK, which we launched on Tuesday.

I've always been worried.

I've been in the US now coming up to 12 years.

And I've always been worried in that time watching Trumpism and MAGA on the rise there that this would be copied in the UK.

And the UK, you know this, John, you served a long time in the US.

You were there before I got there.

The UK follows what the US does just with a bit of a time lag politically, going back 10, 20, 30, 40 years.

And I think the parallels are there now.

I saw it during the pandemic.

Remember there was one Tory MP, I forget his name, who was a bit of anti-vaxxer, got kicked out.

And he said, oh, that's weird.

Are we getting anti-vax sentiment in the UK?

That then took over.

Similarly, you now have British politicians talking about mass deportations.

You have political parties wanting to have a British ice.

It is very much looking at what Trump did on the right and trying to copy it.

And hopefully it won't go as far here as it did there.

In terms of the violence situation, thankfully, Britain still doesn't have the levels of gun violence or political violence that the United States has suffered from for a while.

But what we're seeing in Belfast, I mean, you know, people are using phrases like pogrom.

It is very worrying when you have, you know, gangs, masked gangs in the street setting fire to people who are not white.