Mel Browne

So that's the message and the mindset that we're bringing into those conversations, which again could be a myth.

So it's realising that and undoing a lot of that and recognising it.

And these are all the sort of things we talk about just in the first couple of weeks.

My husband would agree.

But also ask the question, how would you feel about that?

Because, you know, that research around domestic violence, sadly, is true.

But I think, so especially for men where they go, oh, I think I'd like it.

You know, my husband is really, he loves that I earn more than him.

However...

He will, when he went away overseas this year and he earned substantially less, we both agreed that he would contribute to our joint pot.

He would stop contributing to our joint pot.

But he couldn't go and turn that off in his bank mentally.

He was like, I can't not contribute as a man.

So I actually had to log in and turn it off for him.

And he was very happy for me too.

And I joked.

I said, do you want me to do it?

He goes, maybe.

So I think, and I love that you say that, that sometimes we can give lip service to it, but when the actions come, it is sometimes something where if that's something that's wrapped up in our identity to say, well, what would I, what could I bring to the relationship if it's not money?

And it can be so much more.