Mel Gibson

Yeah. I read a book once by Jared Diamond called Collapse. Have you ever read that book? Yeah. Yeah. Crazy, right? It says all the things you need for a civilization to cave in and collapse. And a lot of the things are present. All those earmarks, the precursors of a collapse, they're present in our time. So it's an interesting observation. Yeah.

And we're no smarter than our grandparents, I don't think.

And we're no smarter than our grandparents, I don't think.

And we're no smarter than our grandparents, I don't think.

In fact, there's something because it's interesting. Somebody was flying by what they thought was a volcano in the 30s, some buzzboy. And he thought, hey, somebody built that. Wait a minute. There's four by eight foot bricks. That's man-made. And it is literally the biggest pyramid in the world. It's bigger than the ones in Egypt. And it's in Guatemala. Guatemala.

In fact, there's something because it's interesting. Somebody was flying by what they thought was a volcano in the 30s, some buzzboy. And he thought, hey, somebody built that. Wait a minute. There's four by eight foot bricks. That's man-made. And it is literally the biggest pyramid in the world. It's bigger than the ones in Egypt. And it's in Guatemala. Guatemala.

In fact, there's something because it's interesting. Somebody was flying by what they thought was a volcano in the 30s, some buzzboy. And he thought, hey, somebody built that. Wait a minute. There's four by eight foot bricks. That's man-made. And it is literally the biggest pyramid in the world. It's bigger than the ones in Egypt. And it's in Guatemala. Guatemala.

Yeah, we talked about that the other day. It's a recent discovery, right? Well, not that recent. Maybe 20 years ago, I visited. I went down there with the archaeologist, the guy named Richard Hansen, who's from Idaho or someplace. And he's down there with his family. He's been working tirelessly for like 30 years. trying to extract this pre-classic city from the jungle.

Yeah, we talked about that the other day. It's a recent discovery, right? Well, not that recent. Maybe 20 years ago, I visited. I went down there with the archaeologist, the guy named Richard Hansen, who's from Idaho or someplace. And he's down there with his family. He's been working tirelessly for like 30 years. trying to extract this pre-classic city from the jungle.

Yeah, we talked about that the other day. It's a recent discovery, right? Well, not that recent. Maybe 20 years ago, I visited. I went down there with the archaeologist, the guy named Richard Hansen, who's from Idaho or someplace. And he's down there with his family. He's been working tirelessly for like 30 years. trying to extract this pre-classic city from the jungle.

And there's not a bunch of tourists. All the pyramids in Tikal would fit inside the one big pyramid in El Mirador.

And there's not a bunch of tourists. All the pyramids in Tikal would fit inside the one big pyramid in El Mirador.

And there's not a bunch of tourists. All the pyramids in Tikal would fit inside the one big pyramid in El Mirador.

It's a monster. And so that tells you that the pre-classic civilization was bigger and grander and more sophisticated than the civilizations that came after it.

It's a monster. And so that tells you that the pre-classic civilization was bigger and grander and more sophisticated than the civilizations that came after it.

It's a monster. And so that tells you that the pre-classic civilization was bigger and grander and more sophisticated than the civilizations that came after it.

Yeah. Disease. Yeah. Disease. I don't know if it was disease or what. I think the people were pretty dissatisfied. It would have been hard for Cortez with his limited numbers to actually take over a civilization like that unless they kind of happened upon a civilization that was pretty dissatisfied with the way things were going. So I think they had people to help them sort of rebel.

Yeah. Disease. Yeah. Disease. I don't know if it was disease or what. I think the people were pretty dissatisfied. It would have been hard for Cortez with his limited numbers to actually take over a civilization like that unless they kind of happened upon a civilization that was pretty dissatisfied with the way things were going. So I think they had people to help them sort of rebel.

Yeah. Disease. Yeah. Disease. I don't know if it was disease or what. I think the people were pretty dissatisfied. It would have been hard for Cortez with his limited numbers to actually take over a civilization like that unless they kind of happened upon a civilization that was pretty dissatisfied with the way things were going. So I think they had people to help them sort of rebel.

Well, because I think it's scary because nobody's speaking your language. And you're looking at indigenous peoples who you... And because they're not speaking the language, you totally kind of buy it. And you can buy the horror and... and the primal nature of the story you want to tell.