Mel Robbins

And you'll know exactly what I mean when you listen to this.

And then I want you to tell me yours.

Oh, that's the next step.

Bill and Dave, I am so happy that you're here.

I hate to say this, but I gotta hit the pause button real quick.

I know you're loving Bill and Dave too, but let's give our sponsors a chance to share a few words.

And I wanna give you a chance to share this episode with somebody who needs to hear it because we all deserve the permission and we also need the frameworks to design the life we truly wanna be living.

Don't go anywhere because there's so much more to dig into and we've got a really cool exercise that we're gonna do when we return.

So stay with us.

Welcome back.

It's your friend Mel Robbins and today's Stanford University professors, Bill Burnett and Dave Evans are here for our first ever double guest episode.

We're talking about how to create a meaningful life and I am loving it.

I know you are too.

So let's jump back in.

So I know I'm going to get a ton of questions about this.

Can you guys give a couple examples of

of what actually a prototype looks like.

So you're a 20-something.

You see your friends living in Montana.

Should I live in New York?