Melissa Wood-Tepperberg

And I think that that's like the dance, right?

Of being the embodiment of what you would love to see within others that you love.

Right?

It's so true.

It's so good.

Yeah.

Then what are you doing?

What are we doing?

And I think that that's like just a life moment to look at with everything that you're doing, by the way.

With like where you're spending your time, what you're doing for your career.

If you're not...

loving it and you're not feeling a way that you want to feel like you visualize when you wake up in the morning then what's the point you know and it comes with lots of odd conversations I've yeah I've always said to my wife that I never want to live a day without love

Yeah.

It's the meaning of it all.

Well, Jay, I have to say, you know, you meet so many people in this space and you are just one of those humans that when you can like sit in a room with you, you know, some people it's like,

And I absolutely love everything you're doing.

But you, like, I'm just like, you're even better, if it could even be.

Like, you're just so, no, I really mean that.

I loved this conversation.

And