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And they couldn't see me until I actually went to an event.

So there wasn't the ability to connect with your audience.

And so when you did connect, it was a real novelty.

Whereas now people can just do a live and they're literally talking to their fans in real time.

I didn't have access to that.

And I also, right around things when really things started to pick up, especially with Instagram, like 2010, I had my first baby.

So I was busy being a mom.

Yeah, good for you.

And I missed the boat I felt like when it came to social media in the beginning.

Because literally I looked up a couple years later and I'm like, what do you mean?

I couldn't get an audition for a commercial unless I had 10,000 followers.

That was the first time I ever heard that.

Well, yeah, because in my generation, you had a headshot, you had a resume, you had to get in the room and your talent.

And you had to audition.

Now it's you can't even get in the room.

And then sometimes there's no even castings either anymore.

It's literally like just direct booking.

They look at your socials.

And I mean, that's how it is.

Oh, you're a part of that.