Meredith Marks

Oh, my gosh. Well, we were separated on and off multiple times over, like, years. And when we were almost getting divorced and when we had filed was when the kids all left the house. Mm-hmm. And that became the time where it was kind of like... So you got straight up filed? Yeah, but we never really went down the path. It was a filing that never went anywhere.

But basically we went and found a better therapist. But yeah, when the kids were all out of the house, it was like there's no reason to stay together anymore. And so if we're not going to make this work, and we didn't really think we were because we had seen other therapists. We had been in couples counseling and counseling. We just thought that it was not going to happen.

But basically we went and found a better therapist. But yeah, when the kids were all out of the house, it was like there's no reason to stay together anymore. And so if we're not going to make this work, and we didn't really think we were because we had seen other therapists. We had been in couples counseling and counseling. We just thought that it was not going to happen.

But basically we went and found a better therapist. But yeah, when the kids were all out of the house, it was like there's no reason to stay together anymore. And so if we're not going to make this work, and we didn't really think we were because we had seen other therapists. We had been in couples counseling and counseling. We just thought that it was not going to happen.

And then we got this incredible new therapist we were recommended to. And he basically taught us how to communicate with each other. I mean, that was the whole problem. Our communication was completely broken. Wow.

And then we got this incredible new therapist we were recommended to. And he basically taught us how to communicate with each other. I mean, that was the whole problem. Our communication was completely broken. Wow.

And then we got this incredible new therapist we were recommended to. And he basically taught us how to communicate with each other. I mean, that was the whole problem. Our communication was completely broken. Wow.

Yeah. Yeah. Like instead, like if someone tells you their feelings, accept it and don't take it as, you know, a judgment on you, you know, and embrace and tell them like, of course you don't want them to feel that way. Like Seth would be like, I feel that. And I'd be like, well, you, you know, defensive. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Like instead, like if someone tells you their feelings, accept it and don't take it as, you know, a judgment on you, you know, and embrace and tell them like, of course you don't want them to feel that way. Like Seth would be like, I feel that. And I'd be like, well, you, you know, defensive. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Like instead, like if someone tells you their feelings, accept it and don't take it as, you know, a judgment on you, you know, and embrace and tell them like, of course you don't want them to feel that way. Like Seth would be like, I feel that. And I'd be like, well, you, you know, defensive. Yeah.

Exactly. Exactly. And so. of course, like if Seth is hurt or upset, I don't want him to feel that way. And maybe I don't agree with what he thinks I did, but he still is entitled to feel that way. And I don't want, you know, you have to be respectful. So that's really the bottom line for us more than anything was learning how to be respectful of each other's feelings and

Exactly. Exactly. And so. of course, like if Seth is hurt or upset, I don't want him to feel that way. And maybe I don't agree with what he thinks I did, but he still is entitled to feel that way. And I don't want, you know, you have to be respectful. So that's really the bottom line for us more than anything was learning how to be respectful of each other's feelings and

Exactly. Exactly. And so. of course, like if Seth is hurt or upset, I don't want him to feel that way. And maybe I don't agree with what he thinks I did, but he still is entitled to feel that way. And I don't want, you know, you have to be respectful. So that's really the bottom line for us more than anything was learning how to be respectful of each other's feelings and

And then we started to communicate deeply again. But for a while, our communications just became completely transactional because when it went beyond that, it was just nasty.

And then we started to communicate deeply again. But for a while, our communications just became completely transactional because when it went beyond that, it was just nasty.

And then we started to communicate deeply again. But for a while, our communications just became completely transactional because when it went beyond that, it was just nasty.

Really during COVID more than anything. I'm probably one of the few people on this planet who can say that Real Housewives coupled with COVID saved their marriage.

Really during COVID more than anything. I'm probably one of the few people on this planet who can say that Real Housewives coupled with COVID saved their marriage.

Really during COVID more than anything. I'm probably one of the few people on this planet who can say that Real Housewives coupled with COVID saved their marriage.

Yeah, I mean, because we were in the space that we were in, working on our communication and, you know, with the therapist. And then, of course, when the world shut down, you know, you do a very deep re-evaluation of what's important in life. Like, everyone thought they were dying, you know? And so I just think that those things...