Meryl Horn

And there's actually way more science on this than I was expecting there was.

Yeah.

So I talked about this with Bill Lopez.

He's a clinical associate professor at the University of Michigan.

And he studied the kind of aftermath of like what happens after one of these raids.

And the way he got into this work was that several years ago, he was already doing a study on the health of a community when an ICE raid happened.

It was just miles away from his house in Michigan.

Twelve people were detained.

And after the raid, he found that something called immigration enforcement stress went up, which is basically the fear of being deported.

Maybe not that surprising.

But then also people said that after the raid, their health got worse overall.

And he also did these in-depth interviews, which really showed the kind of depths of the effects on people.

So he told me the story of this woman who had gone with her husband that day to pick up their car from the mechanic.

And then Bill interviewed her later about how this experience stuck with her.

And other research has found that ice raids aren't just impacting undocumented people.

One study said that U.S.

citizens were more likely to report feeling anxious or depressed if they knew someone who was detained or deported.

And it's not just mental health that's affected.

Studies are finding that it can affect physical health, too.

And then Bill told me about this study.