Meryl Horn

Okay.

Okay.

I do, yes.

So let's dive in and find out what actually works here to stop scrolling.

So to start, let's meet Jae Jong Kim.

He's an assistant professor at Cheongnam National University in Korea.

He's also had a problem with scrolling.

For him, YouTube is the thing that would get him.

You just get sucked down these rabbit holes.

Yeah, but he has done a lot of work trying to figure out like exactly what strategies work to stop.

Like how can people break these habits?

Interesting, yeah.

And so I wanted to start with the most hardcore intervention that he's come up with.

Do you want to guess what they did to help people stop scrolling?

Nice guesses.

I guess it wasn't that extreme in a way.

Well, not too many people would sign up for a study, I don't think, where they had to, like, get rid of their phones.

So his approach was to just make an app that would kick you off your phone.

If you go past a certain time limit, then you couldn't use your phone for anything except to make phone calls.

So, yeah, first, you know, there's about 40 people.