Mia Mottley

So even I got a little trouble sometimes.

And then a tape ball.

And you can play it.

It's like the size of a table tennis board, but it's played on the road.

And that's it.

So it's the most perfect sport for inner city areas and ghettos.

Where there's no cars.

Yeah.

Well, even when there are cars, no.

Like, I love that you bring up the idea of thinking of new ways to think, because that's probably what inspires me most about you is whenever I see you speak, and whenever I've even, I've been lucky enough to have like two conversations, I think, with you.

Every time I've left our conversation thinking, oh, wow, nothing is fixed.

There's new ideas in and around everything, you know, like immigration.

Yeah.

We all think of immigration as this fixed idea.

It was people going somewhere and then that was it.

Do you think there's ever a world where, like you say with money, do you think there's ever a world where we find a way for people to go work and then go back to their countries?

We need to.

People used to do that in a more structured way.

But...

Because the world hasn't created, governments haven't created the opportunities.