Mia Mottley

When you share these ideas with other world leaders,

Do they see the possibility or like I've always wondered when you're having these conversations internally, are world leaders being pushed by the people or are they the ones pushing the people?

Which way does it really go?

You have the ability to push them.

And I don't mean that facetiously.

We're leaders are politicians.

Most of them who operate in democracies rely on people's votes.

And the people have the ability to shape democracy.

the work of their leaders, as well as leaders have the ability to nudge the population.

I genuinely feel that there are things that we are going to have to do at a popular level globally in order to be able to see the status quo of power move.

In what way?

Why would they change what they're doing if it's working for them?

You understand?

And what we're asking, in fact, is a change in the power relationships and the status quo of how people are treated when they move beyond borders.

And that is going to require a little more effort.

Look at the conversations that are happening across North America, across Europe.

Look at them.

And regrettably, in some other countries, it's becoming par for the course.

But could the USA be the USA if it was not for migrants?

It's immigrant labor.