Mia Mottley

Any living organism survives by shutting in.

It doesn't work.

And regrettably, we have to get worse before we get better, before we realize that it is a crisis and that the survival of all depends on the well-being and welfare of all, as happened in COVID.

Yeah, those are the only times when people start to think differently about the world that they're in.

We'll be right back after this.

Let's look at Barbados in isolation because I think it's the same problem that many countries are going to face.

Thinking about their populations, how they replenish them, how they keep skills, how they keep growing sustainably.

Have you seen any countries that have gotten it right?

And have you seen an example where you go, that is the way that I would hope we can bring people in, we can sustainably grow it?

Canada has probably done a better job than most of the developed countries.

And what did they do?

I think that they found a way of recognizing that they need to bring in people.

But at the same time, they treat them as Canadians.

The US had it right before too.

I mean, for whatever reason, the US is in a schism as it relates to migration.

And I'm not passing judgment on them.

I'm just noticing that you do grow and you do succeed if you create those opportunities.

I think you were absolutely correct in also making the point that in those parts of the country where people were denied

or didn't have the ability to move at the same level and to increase their quality of life at the same level, they then assume that it's because of a foreigner, it's because of an outsider.

You're seeing it in France, you're seeing it in other places.