Mia Mottley

Exactly.

You may have the best mind, but you may not.

What we want is opportunity.

Let's deal with the Security Council.

You have five countries that are the permanent five, but then you have other countries outside it, like India, that has over, what, 1.4 billion people out of 8 billion people in the world, and they don't sit on the permanent five.

You have Africa,

And I'm not talking about individual countries in Africa, because I keep making the point that the day that Africa gets its act together and becomes the United States of Africa, then you have Africa, India, and China.

And don't tell me about ethnicities or boundaries drawn, because India has as many ethnicities, or Africa has more than India, but India has hundreds of ethnicities and languages, same in China.

But they found a way to stay whole as a nation state.

So why shouldn't Africa be represented on the Security Council as a permanent member?

Why should they have to go and fight for an election for a different country every other year to get on?

Let us look at, we talked about the per capita GDP as the basis.

Why should I have to pay more money to borrow money for development?

when I am more vulnerable and you're not taking into account my vulnerability in terms of the cost of capital, the interest rates that you'll charge me, but you're asking me to use the notion that, oh, you've come out of poverty, so what do you do?

You put me back on an escalator to be pauperized again because you're charging me now too much money and I'm spending more money in interest

than I'm spending in health and education.

That make sense to you?

So these things all started to come together.

And as we went, we realized that there are other issues pertaining to trade, the issues pertaining to recently the credit rating agencies, because they have a significant and some argue disproportionate impact.

Yeah, I mean, they determine where money goes.