Mia Mottley

I'd like to do even more, but we do more than most countries of the world, quite frankly.

And I think that in understanding that, you then begin to say to the finances, that's why I need 30 years or 40 years to pay back for the construction of a school or a hospital, because I need to make sure that the people in whom I'm investing

are now earning to help me pay back that debt at that point in time.

But if you give me 10 or 15 years to do it, everything bunches up and I'm not yet at the stage where I have the capacity to repay, given the investment that I've made in people.

Yeah, my mom always used to say, you need to give the tree long enough time to bear fruit.

Absolutely.

And if you let it grow long enough, you can keep plucking fruit forever.

That's the point.

And it's so basic that if we can, and that's why I say to you,

that you have the ability, you and others, you and Ava DuVernay and others who are storytellers, who are communicators, more than anything else, we need the world to hear the message.

And as a prime minister or as a political figure,

they'll immediately devalue what I say by 70% because politicians don't carry this way, that you will carry as a comedian, as an entertainer, that she will carry as a producer and a director, that Usain Bolt or Gary Sobers will carry as a sportsman, or Rihanna will carry as an artist.

You have the ability to reach people when they are vulnerable and willing to hear.

And it'll stick.

No, we start like this.

Exactly.

We start like this.

And then our next conversation on a road playing... In Barbados.

But I'm not going to be playing road tennis with you.

I'm going to get some of my constituents to do it.